Convener: Matt Baer (@matt@writing.exchange)

Participants who chose to record their names here:

• Anca Mosoiu

• Jeremiah Lee

• Matthias Pfefferle (@pfefferle@notiz.blog)

• Andreas Sander (@andi1984@dibbelabb.es)

Notes

Images

• Image hosting doesn’t exist yet for WriteFreely, but you can add links to images hosted elsewhere

• Images get attached in the ActivityPub posts with the alt text

Multiple Blogs

• Multiple blogs are possible and there is a setting how many blogs a user can have.

• Each blog has its own URL (domain.com/blogname/blogpost) so it can be ditinguished. Each would have its own ActivityPub handle

Comments and Replies?

• Working on this. There are moderation concerns, etc.

• Looking for feedback from the community about this

• Jeremiah: I’d like to be able to curate the reply list. I don’t want to show all the replies I get.

Integration:

• Is there a way to interface wit this in a headless way? Want to use this in a serverless way, to split up instances when needed so I can serve cached content.

• API: https://developers.write.as/docs/api/

Vision

• personal spaces for the people

• Mastodon communities posting “behind the scenes” stories via WriteFreely

Where to give / see feedback:

• https://discuss.write.as

• https://fedidb.org/software/writefreely

General discussion:

• ActivityPub WP Plugin tries to match Post type to ActivityPub object - it tries to do the best it can, but often things get converted to notes for Mastodon

  • Notes show as “tweets”

  • Articles get stripped to headline and link on Mastodon

  • WP plugin can try to map the WP internal model to the ActivityPub model (eg Image posts)

  • Hometown renders articles fully

• Quote post support is being considered (https://oembed.com/)

• What HTML tags to allow?

  • Friendica supports almost everything

  • Mastodon very strict

  • WP trying to use same filter mechanism as Mastodon, but frustrating to other platforms that support more

  • Mastodon strips out inline images, so have to add as attachment. Friendica supports the inline images, but causes image duplication in display. Frustrating on differences between 2 platforms.

  • Content doesn’t appear the same way in different platforms. While this is an expectation for some developers, this is frustrating for users.

    • Interopability

    • Need a space to start documenting these sort of interoperability problems

    • (Talk to Johannes about the interoperability test suite)

    • Don’t want to have to send unique post types to people depending on what server the follower is using

      • ActivityPub is push, so you’d have to know before sending to them

      • Jeremiah: User agent sniffing might be a resonable interim solution

• Anca: WordPress support excerpts. Might be a good UX to have that published as a Note for the full Article since Mastodon does unusual things with Articles. https://howto.write.as/show-an-excerpt

• Pixelfed just ignores all notes/posts that don’t contain an image. This allows their service to be focused on visual content.

Monetization

• Jeremiah is working on this, others are very interested. Session tomorrow?

Do we want users to read full articles on their preferred platform or on the publisher’s dedicated page?

• reading wherever user wants is probably increasing interactivity

https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fediverse-ideas/issues/1

Jeremiah says: Join us at https://fedidevs.org/ and the Matrix channel, where discuss both the tech aspect and the UX. https://matrix.to/#/#fediverse-developer-network:matrix.org