Conveners: Ryan Barrett (https://snarfed.org) and Anuj Ahooja (https://quillmatiq.com) of A New Social

Participants who chose to record their names here:

• Seth Goldstein (@phillycodehound@indieweb.social)
• Jayne Samuel-Walker (@tcmuffin@toot.wales)
• Matthias Pfefferle (@pfefferle@mastodon.social)
• Damon (@damon@social.wedistribute.org)
• Julian Fietkau (@julian@fietkau.social)
• Scott Jenson (@scottjenson@social.coop)
• Jonathan Bellack (jonathan@bellack.com)
• narF … (@narF@mstdn.ca)
• Alexis (@alexisbushnell@toot.wales)
• Julian Lam (@julian@activitypub.space)
• Thiago Skárnio (@skarnio@alquimidia.org)
• @nigini@social.coop
• @samir@m.fedica.com
• @johannab@cosocial.ca
• Paul Fuxjäger (@cypherhippie@chaos.social)

Background: https://blog.anew.social/bridging-identity-with-account-links/

Notes

• narF (in chat): I read the proposal and I think it’s brilliant!
• If you cross-post/bridge-post and someone sees it in their client as two posts, clients aren’t aware that they are technically the same post.
• Clients should be able to source your posts from the originator rather than defaulting to a lossy option on the platform you’re viewing them from
• This is where Account Links come in!
  • Bridgy Fed uses the alsoKnownAs field to link your native and bridged accounts.
• Ryan: Is this anything?
• Damon: Is there an FEP?
  • Anuj: I don’t think so, but you’re right - there should be one.
  • Matthias P: The one that ryan mention was https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/fffd/fep-fffd.md
• Ryan: This helps with multiple bridges intersecting.
• Ryan: This does not help with context collapse.
• Alexis: When I cross-post, I write differently for each platform. If I post something long on Mastodon, people won’t click the link on the Bsky side.
  • Ryan/Anuj: We want clients to be able to be able to pull full versions of posts.
• Samir: Fedica lets you compose a cross-post but with each platform’s limitations as a part of it; if those accounts are bridged then you have multiple “same” posts showing up in your feed. Would love to participate in account links!
• Julian: Threadiverse - multiple disjoint communities federating with each other. Would love a cross-posting mechanic (ie. NodeBB <-> PieFed). We’re all speaking ActivityPub and we still run into the same problem!
  • Ryan: Worth looking at the Proxy Objects FEP: https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/fep/fffd/fep-fffd.md
• Johnathan: Account linking as a trust system (I’m new here, but I’m also here and people know me)
  • Johnathan in chat: Demo from the ASML @ Harvard of getting an account credential and storing it in a wallet, plus7 a UI icon akin to verification https://youtu.be/-9pJK1_wRNc?si=MYezVBRs7bnZrjTx
• Samir: bi/multi-directional: How do you decide which one is the right/original post?
  • fffd doesn’t specify canonicality, just that they are related/proxied.
• Julian: How do you deal with moderation when there’s several different ecosystems as a part of the post?
  • Ryan: The good news is these are semantic questions; different use cases depending on the UX. The links do not prescribe UX.
  • Merging may not always make sense (same post across different Reddit communities may not want a combined thread with everyone’s replies across subreddits).
• Ryan: We’re currently focused on standards-based platforms, tough to do with Instagrams, LinkedIns etc.
• Bridging v Cross-Posting: https://blog.anew.social/bridging-vs-cross-posting/
• Bridgy Fed can only do this in one direction (ie. in only the bridged post, we cannot set something in the OP).
• Damon: Have you reached out to Wafrn, OpenVibe etc.