Knowledge Bases: Decentralized, Federated, Local-first Wikis
/2025-06/session/5-k/
Convener: Tommi (@tommi@pan.rent)
Participants who chose to record their names here:
- Charles Iliya Krempeaux (@reiver@mastodon.social)
- Eric Fassbender (@fassbender@sciences.social)
- Davide Eynard (@mala@fosstodon.org)
- Kyle R. Conway (@K_REY_C@social.coop)
- Luis, www.lqdev.me (@lqdev@toot.lqdev.tech)
- Cagan Mert Islek (@islekcaganmert.me@bsky.brid.gy)
Notes
TOMMI: who knows about https://anytype.io ? (for the record, nobody ahah)
TOMMI: Notion has “fractal embedding”
TOMMI: who knows about Obsidian, Logseq, etc?
- I use Logseq, but not super happy with it
TOMMI: what about federating knowledge
TOMMI: anytype is great but, it is very difficult to support, and they are still working on publishing (???)
TOMMI: would be good to have both PUBLIC and PRIVATE federation
TOMMI: creator of Lemmy is developing a shared wiki: https://ibis.wiki
DAVIDE: interoperability among shared notes and information in general
DAVIDE: survival guide against enshittification? Instead of making it a centralized repository (e.g. AlternativeTo), we should make it federated
- travis: ♥️♥️
CHARLES: Would love to have web-sites, wikis, books, expose on the Fediverse / ActivityStreams / ActivityPub.
CHARLES: It would also helping with other people archiving it, and sharing it, to help preserve knowledge long-term.
CHARLES: Many people (often in academia) write books for career reason, and not many read them, and they go out of priint. Why not make those available for free, let others archive it, share it, etc. Help preserve the knowledge.
CHARLES: people could have reading groups, and annotate an activitypub / activitystream enabled book with highlights, with comments, with video conversations, etc. At the book level, at the chapter level, at the paragram level, at the sentence level, etc etc etc.
CHARLES: why not make personal archiving/bookmarking free? Making chunks of knowledge we find around the world accessible, also the ability to
- travis: WANT!!
KYLE: like https://web.hypothes.is/ (web annotation tool)
Cagan: Local-first Super App With Open Social Web Integrations has local Notes with TheProtocols as API and ActivityPub for sharing.
DAVID: what is used MCP protocol (Model Context Protocol), since it is there anyways. (link: https://modelcontextprotocol.io/introduction)
CHARLES: embed URLs and make them appear in native apps as it happens in the Fediverse (e.g. if for example we click on a Mastodon link and it gets opened in the client)
The idea that is being formed is that we want to focus on building integrations and interoperability so that we still keep using the software and the services we use but making them connect together.
LUIS: Leveraging semantic web standards for structured knowledge representation
DAVIDE: decentralized Wikipedia: https://kiwix.org/en/a-new-partnership-to-build-a-decentralized-wikipedia/
CHARLES (REIVER): talked about the history of the semantic-“wars” between the microformats/indieweb people versus the RDF people
This session’s topic is also the focus of the emerging DWeb Italy node (https://getdweb.net). We decided to follow up there.
Invite to DWeb’s Discord: https://discord.gg/yASqT8E5K8
DWeb Italy chat inside DWeb’s channel: https://discord.com/channels/996862658458435690/1372633660687253704
FIRST DWEB ITALY MEETUP: June 16 at 16:30 UTC on https://vc.autistici.org/DWeb-Italy